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| I used to see notices in KY truckstops posted by a kennel that would pay truck drivers to deliver dogs to buyers in the area the drivers loads were headed . The buyers would meet the driver at a truckstop or large parking lot . Totally illegal .
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scrappietwo (7/7/2008) does this also apply to a personal vehicle used only for dogs and cats?I just don't think that you'll be bothered too much by the motor carrier regulations enforcement officers if you're tooling down the interstate in your minivan with a couple of beagles and a Siamese cat in a cage. So what if you're picking up a few bucks for taking the little critters to a new home..... What are the officers going to do, make you show them the animals title or birth certificate? How would they prove (or even suspect) that they aren't your own personal pets? Now if you're driving a truck with cages all over it or signs on the outside saying...I"ll Haul Old Rover for $$$$$.....obviously look like you're commercial.........well that might be another story. But when it comes to someone transporting an animal or two at a time and getting a little compensation for it.....if you're being realistic......no one will even notice you unless they bite some poor unlucky sucker. The part of advice that Jack (Indian) mentioned about having their vacination and health certificates is a good common sense idea and should be followed. Not so much for legal reasons, but for practical and safety concerns. You'd absolutely have to have them if you were crossing international borders. Keep in mind that if your vehicle is under 10,000 lbs GVWR/GVW that you aren't classified as a CMV operating in interstate commerce so you aren't regulated by FMCSA. Don't worry about it.....gas up that little Dodge Caravan, load up old Rover and Little Pussy, and haul them for the dim wits that are willing to pay rather than go to the local animal shelter and adopt. If some DOT officer stops you and gives you hell... ..call your congressional representative because that idiot is wasting tax payer's dollars....... Just my 2 cents...... Don....
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| how about i lease out my whole rig to you. check my pictures of my set up on my profile. u gotta have yo own insurance and authority though. if u wanna use mine that will cost u more. i will take upwards of $3K monthly, which might be get reduced or increased after i fully done did the whole monthly accounting for leasing my setup to u. let me know. alphastock p/s - i feel i want outof the buz coz of fuel costs. i am not making as much as i felt i was gonna make, and $867 insurance a month, man let melease this out to u.
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1MeanDog (7/8/2008) [quote]scrappietwo (7/7/2008) does this also apply to a personal vehicle used only for dogs and cats?
I just don't think that you'll be bothered too much by the motor carrier regulations enforcement officers if you're tooling down the interstate in your minivan with a couple of beagles and a Siamesecat in a cage. So what if you're picking up a few bucks for taking the little critters to a new home..... What are the officers going to do, make you show them the animals title or birth certificate? Howwould they prove (or even suspect) that they aren't your own personal pets? Now ifyou're driving a truck with cages all over it or signs on the outside saying...I"ll Haul Old Rover for $$$$$.....obviously look like you're commercial.........well that might be another story. But when it comes to someone transporting an animal or two at a time and getting a little compensation forit.....if you're being realistic......no one willeven noticeyou unless they bite some poor unlucky sucker. The part of advice that Jack (Indian) mentioned about having their vacination and healthcertificates is a good common sense idea and should be followed. Not so much for legal reasons, but for practical and safety concerns. You'd absolutely have to have them if you were crossing international borders. Keep in mind that if your vehicle is under 10,000 lbs GVWR/GVW that you aren't classified as a CMVoperating in interstate commerce so you aren't regulated by FMCSA. Don't worry about it.....gas up thatlittle DodgeCaravan, load up old Rover and Little Pussy, and haul them for thedim wits that are willing to pay rather than go to the localanimal shelter and adopt. If some DOT officer stops you and gives you hell... ..call your congressional representative because that idiot is wasting tax payer's dollars.......
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Don just keeps educating me . I knew you didn't have to log if you weren't over 10,000 lbs. GVW but I didn't realize you weren't under FMCSA regulation at all . (All the cargo vans contracted to expediting carriers caused the misconception )The FMCSA registration guide confirms it though . MC authority isn't required . Some states would require you to have a DOT number and you would apply as a Vehicle Registrant . Just be aware if you hook to a trailer that puts you over GCWR over 10,000 lbs. you then fall under FMCSA regulation . KY Department of Vehicle Enforcement (they get upset if you call them DOT ) has cited a lot of 1 tons pulling trailers . Many were just local contractors . Fines were substantial but the courts dismissed charges if the offender was compliant by the time they went to court .
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scrappietwo (7/7/2008) does this also apply to a personal vehicle used only for dogs and cats?I just don't think that you'll be bothered too much by the motor carrier regulations enforcement officers if you're tooling down the interstate in your minivan with a couple of beagles and a Siamesecat in a cage. So what if you're picking up a few bucks for taking the little critters to a new home..... What are the officers going to do, make you show them the animals title or birth certificate? Howwould they prove (or even suspect) that they aren't your own personal pets? Now ifyou're driving a truck with cages all over it or signs on the outside saying...I"ll Haul Old Rover for $$$$$.....obviously look like you're commercial.........well that might be another story. But when it comes to someone transporting an animal or two at a time and getting a little compensation forit.....if you're being realistic......no one willeven noticeyou unless they bite some poor unlucky sucker. The part of advice that Jack (Indian) mentioned about having their vacination and healthcertificates is a good common sense idea and should be followed. Not so much for legal reasons, but for practical and safety concerns. You'd absolutely have to have them if you were crossing international borders. Keep in mind that if your vehicle is under 10,000 lbs GVWR/GVW that you aren't classified as a CMVoperating in interstate commerce so you aren't regulated by FMCSA. Don't worry about it.....gas up thatlittle DodgeCaravan, load up old Rover and Little Pussy, and haul them for thedim wits that are willing to pay rather than go to the localanimal shelter and adopt. If some DOT officer stops you and gives you hell... ..call your congressional representative because that idiot is wasting tax payer's dollars.......Just my2 cents......Don.... Don just keeps educating me . I knew you didn't have to log if you weren't over 10,000 lbs. GVW but I didn't realize you weren't under FMCSA regulation at all . (All the cargo vans contracted to expediting carriers caused the misconception )The FMCSA registration guide confirms it though . MC authority isn't required . Some states would require you to have a DOT number and you would apply as a Vehicle Registrant . Just be aware if you hook to a trailer that puts you over GCWR over 10,000 lbs. you then fall under FMCSA regulation . KY Department of Vehicle Enforcement (they get upset if you call them DOT ) has cited a lot of 1 tons pulling trailers . Many were just local contractors . Fines were substantial but the courts dismissed charges if the offender was compliant by the time they went to court . Ky... Below is what I was going by as my reference from the FMCSA website...and I absolutely agree with you that if someone hooks up that little Ford Ranger or Dodge Mini Van to a trailer and the total GVWR is over 10,000 lbs....Whamo...if they're transporting for compensation they're now subject to the rules. ...Don How do I determine whether I am subject to FMCSA's safety regulations? If you operate any of the following types of commercial motor vehicles in interstate commerce you must comply with the applicable U.S. Department of Transportation (USDOT) safety regulations concerning: CDL: controlled substances and alcohol testing for all persons required to possess a CDL: driver qualifications (including medical exams); driving of commercial motor vehicles; parts and accessories necessary for safe operations; hours of service; and inspection, repair and maintenance. (1) A vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 4,537 kg (10,001 lb) or more, whichever is greater; (2) A vehicle designed or used to transport between 9 and 15 passengers (including the driver) for compensation; (3) A vehicle designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers; or (4) Any size vehicle used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act (49 U.S.C. 5101 et seq.) and which require the motor vehicle to be placarded under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (49 CFR chapter I, subchapter C).
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