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| To those of you doing alot of running across this great land of ours -- apportioned plates or buy the permits? Can you provide a list of Port of Entry states where permits have to be obtained and an estimated cost for say a 90 day permit? Estimated cost for apportioned plates? Thanks in advance for your replies.
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| What is your combined maximum weight? What is your home base state? Where do you run? There are several factors that would determine whether you are better (or eligible) to apportion and what the cost of individual state perrmits will cost.
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| Don, Gross combined is 26,000. Base is Texas. Mostly run the lower 3/4 of the US, no upper northwest or northeast. Here's a list to give you an idea. AR, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, MD, MI, MN, MS, MO, NE, NV, NC, OH, OK, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, VA, WV, WI. Just trying to get an idea what states I must purchase permits in and approximate cost of apportioned plates. I'll either register truck at 26,000 and buy permits or get apportioned plates. Seem it's a never ending "What to do!" Right now truck is registerd at 9400 and trailer at 10,000. In Texas that's fine, you combine the two for gross. Got fined in Oklahoma for being "under registered" because once you go interstate it goes only by what the truck is registered at. Any help you can offer is greatly appreciated. Unlike alot of others, I am trying to do this legal! Rick
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| With the expiration and demise of SSRS, you can run most of those states under 26K with no permits other than your US DOT authority. The new UCR (or whatever it ends up being called) replacement system isn't up and running yet so I don't have any idea what that will do to us. The only states I've needed (or at least actually gotten) permits for are AZ and NM. I probably would need them for NV but I have never bothered to check. You may want to talk to Eric Carlson (HotShotTransportation) about the apportioned plates and cost. I've never seen an advantage for me to apportion below 26K and I don't want to deal with all the additional recording and reporting. With a few exceptions, you can run almost all of the states without any state specific permits if you stay out of the northeast..........and I leave that area to Tony anyway. I did read about some recent changes for Texas intrastate in OOIDA's Land Line magazine. But do to my antiquated status in life, I can't remember what the new rules affected. Tophand and Veterans Transport are based in Texas and would likely know and share info on Texas issues. I'd be interested to know if you find it is a significant advantage to go IRP/IFTA under 26K. Don
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| Thanks for the reply, Don. At this time I'm leaning toward just registering at 26,000. I have a yearly permit for NM and have only had to purchase a permit in AZ so far. You are right about all the paperwork and hassle of maintaining apportioned plates. If I decide on apportioned I'll re-post and let the world (or uShip's small part of it) know costs and such. Thanks again, Don, for your help. Rick RUNNING LEGAL!!
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| Rick....thanks again and I have a couple of quick questions about the New Mexico permit. Are you based in NM? The reason I ask is that I have to get a permit every trip. I've ask about getting a permit for a period of time and each time I've been told that they don't do that. Of course those officers don't necessarily tell it like it is every time. Could you tell me if you got it at a Port of Entry or directly from the state? Also, if you don't mind could you tell me how much it cost and for what weight? I'd much rather not have to get a NM permit each trip if I could avoid it. ..........Don
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| I had OOIDA do my filings for MC and DOT and my BOC-3 is through them. They filed with NM and NY for tax purposes. I am registered and based in Texas. NM filing is with the State of New Mexico Taxation and Revenue Department, Motor Vehicle Division, Commercial Vehicle Bureau. It's called a New Mexico WDT Tax ID Permit. Not exactly sure of the cost, but it was somewhere around $45. They mail you a form quarterly to fill out to pay your taxes based on weight and miles driven in the quarter. The great thing about it is you don't pay unless you are at 26,001 or above! I just fill out the form and send a note saying I don't meet the minimum requirements and mail it back. Five minutes top and I'm good for three months. The papers they send you initially is two part. Fill in the blanks on the VIN and unit number, tear off the blue part (blue for 2007, may change next year) and carry in your truck. When you go through a Port of Entry, just show the blue part. They know by that you do quarterly filings -- no stopping for permits. NY is pretty much the same. The permit was cheaper, but you have to pay for being at 18,000 and over. I stay out of the northeast because of all the tolls and probably won't renew with NY. I haven't checked, but you may be able to file for the NM WDT Tax ID Permit online. Hope this helps, Don! Run safe! Rick
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| what is gvw on your truck and gvw on trailer as this determins which plate you will have to get I have a dually 1 ton that has gvw of 11400 and trailer that is 15000 so Iam over by 400 must register apportioned and have class a cdl you can not register what you decide dot goes by what the vehicle has stamped on the door or the tailer has stamped on it the cost of apportioned plate's are 400.00 for all 48 in wv.I had to answer your question none of the other people did !!!
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I had OOIDA do my filings for MC and DOT and my BOC-3 is through them. They filed with NM and NY for tax purposes. I am registered and based in Texas. NM filing is with the State of New Mexico Taxation and Revenue Department, Motor Vehicle Division, Commercial Vehicle Bureau. It's called a New Mexico WDT Tax ID Permit. Not exactly sure of the cost, but it was somewhere around $45. They mail you a form quarterly to fill out to pay your taxes based on weight and miles driven in the quarter. The great thing about it is you don't pay unless you are at 26,001 or above! I just fill out the form and send a note saying I don't meet the minimum requirements and mail it back. Five minutes top and I'm good for three months. The papers they send you initially is two part. Fill in the blanks on the VIN and unit number, tear off the blue part (blue for 2007, may change next year) and carry in your truck. When you go through a Port of Entry, just show the blue part. They know by that you do quarterly filings -- no stopping for permits. NY is pretty much the same. The permit was cheaper, but you have to pay for being at 18,000 and over. I stay out of the northeast because of all the tolls and probably won't renew with NY. I haven't checked, but you may be able to file for the NM WDT Tax ID Permit online. Hope this helps, Don! Run safe! Rick Rick........Thanks for the info. I'm going to get on line and see what I can come up with for NM. It is a pain getting a permit every time I go through the Port of Entry. Hopefully I can file on line. ...........Don
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26000 GVWR. I had a friend ask and now am thinking. He's getting ready to get plates for over 26K with a 21K 3 car trailer. GBut he said his is going to cost about $1800 How are all these 3 and now 4 car trailers behind 1T dually's getting by under 26K? I can't really see their plates but I am almost positive that if they don't have markings they don't have plates. I did see a dodge with 3 cars on it at a rest stop for 2 days in CA
My truck is 11200 and 2 car trailer is 14000 so with 2 cars I'm at 25200 
Don, I had my company who did my authority get me the paperwork for NM but when I was getting my permit on my last trip their he said unless you come through about 10+ times the permit is a better way to go.
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